How do you see the DEMO projects developing? And what is the best way, as your wrote in a Newsline column in September 2011, "to tackle the remaining science and technological challenges on the way to a magnetic fusion DEMO"?
Establishing roadmaps and starting to design DEMO facilities, as some countries have done, is a good start. The next step is to carry out the critical DEMO-focused R&D programs needed to establish the technical basis for these projects. Heat exhaust, materials properties under fusion neutron irradiation, and tritium self-sufficiency are among the technical challenges for which R&D is needed to develop practical solutions. Most importantly, all agree that successful construction and exploitation of ITER is mandatory, not only to understand the properties and control of a burning plasma, but to establish fusion's ability to successfully carry out such a large-scale project. International collaboration was crucial in establishing the ITER Project and, in my view, will continue to be indispensable for successfully completing the ITER mission and the remaining steps to DEMO. Going forward, we will continue to experiment to find the best among the many possible models for international collaboration.
You've had a long career in fusion research. How do you assess the progress accomplished over the past 40 years or so?
I have a mixed response to that question. Fusion can take credit for a long list of accomplishments in that period, but I would single out the start of ITER construction as a sort of crowning achievement. Before we could take that step, we had to establish ITER's technical basis (both physics and technology), organize an international enterprise, develop a self-consistent design and schedule, and initiate work through Procurement Arrangements and, finally, contracts. Those accumulated accomplishments have taken fusion across the threshold to a new DEMO-focused era, in which succeeding with ITER will be our first task. But, I have to say that we haven't progressed as rapidly as we foresaw 40 years ago, partly because the technical challenges have proved to be greater than we estimated and partly because for many years the resources were not available to take the large steps needed to accelerate progress. Now, though, with large international commitment to the ITER Project, we have the opportunity to tackle some of our biggest challenges. Our community needs to deliver on ITER's promise as rapidly as possible, and thereby make the case for continued support for solving fusion's remaining challenges. I am confident that we will do that.
Harnessing fusion energy and providing mankind with an almost inexhaustible and universally available energy source could change the course of civilization. Do you find that policy makers and public opinion are sufficiently aware of what is at stake in fusion research?
Broadly speaking, yes. I think fusion's potential is broadly understood by the public and policy makers, but there is also a generally correct appreciation of the uncertainties, risks, and costs attendant with fusion research. Support for fusion research competes with other public imperatives. Fusion's priority is not always as high as we fusion researchers might wish, but the sustained support we've had over several decades and now, the commitment to ITER, indicates that its importance is broadly understood and the glass is at least half full. That said, there are plenty of misconceptions out there, and it behoves fusion researchers to be relentless in their efforts to constantly explain, educate, and deliver a balanced message about fusion's potential to the public.